8 dumb mistakes men make with women

Nothing sends a woman running like a desperate man. If you're trying too hard you'll drive her away

8 dumb mistakes men make with women -- Men get all kinds of dating advice -- some smart, some stupid. If you're a guy, it's hard to know who to believe when it comes to us women.

Honestly, as women, sometimes we're not even sure what we want half the time, but you knew that already. In any case, sometimes it's easier for us to say what we don't want.

So if you don't want to send a woman screaming in the opposite direction, don't commit a single one of these "gross" mistakes when you are truly trying to win our hearts.

1. Trying too hard

Think you don't try too hard with the ladies? Think again. There is nothing that sends a woman running like a man who reeks of desperation. She didn't call you back? She didn't return your email? She wandered off to talk to her friends? Dude, she's just not that into you. Chill out and find another woman.

2. Coming on strong

We know you want to sleep with us. All men want to have sex -- all the time. This is obvious. That is just how you are wired. Don't think we don't already know this. But, if you come on extra strong from the get-go, we may be prone to throwing up on your shoes. Try turning down the slime factor and break out a few subtle moves or tamer language, and we just might get with you.

3. Laid-back dude

At the same time, being a stone-cold chiller can be equally ineffective. If you act so laid-back that we ask you if you're still awake, you're probably not trying hard enough. We don't want you climbing all over us all the time, but you've got to put some effort into courting us if you're ever going to get anywhere.

4. The tune-out

OK, we like to talk! We admit it. We like to talk about our feelings, our day, what's going on at work, those shoes we bought today, and where our relationship is going, and, and, and ... You name it, we'll have a discussion about it. We don't care if you actually care. We do care if you actually listen. Pay attention to at least half of what we're saying, and we won't spend so much time trying to get your attention.

5. Mr. Tight Wad

Being cheap is so not sexy. Taking her out on a first date? Try this: pay. Who cares if it's politically correct and if she reaches for the bill. It doesn't have anything to do with money. It has everything to do with generosity. Chicks like it when you pay for stuff. Go figure.

6. Insecure much?

We understand you may not be 100 percent confident, that you, like us, have faults, that you're as unsure as to how to do this as we are, but do not put your insecurities on parade. It doesn't matter how manly you act. A gross lack of self-confidence telegraphs weakness -- and no girl wants a 99-pound mental weakling.

7. Flattery will get you everywhere

Compliments will score you: a happy girlfriend, great sex, everything you ever wanted. It works two ways. Remember: happy wife (or girlfriend), happy life.

8. Our toilet, our rules

If you come over to our house, spend the night, and leave the toilet seat up, we will get up in the middle of the night, sit on the toilet, and fall into the cold, wet water. After that moment, we will always associate you with that moment of falling in the toilet.

This is not the message you want to send. Put down the toilet seat. It's better than sending roses. (The Frisky)